Ye, formerly known as Kanye West, suffered a great lot of loss in popularity and brand deals due to his previous anti-Semitic statements. The Chicago rapper has apologized to the Jewish community and seems to have moved on, but on Wednesday, August 7, Candace Owens released an exclusive interview with him.

The pair’s October 17, 2022, conversation covered a wide range of subjects, including religion, the “White Lives Matter” T-shirt issue, JAY-Z, and more. Ye talked about his controversial tweet about “going [DEFCON] 3 on Jewish people” about 20 minutes in.

Ye clarified, labeling himself “the darker Jew,” saying, “When I said DEFCON 3, I didn’t get an opportunity to say what that meant, but it meant I’m going to call out all these things that have been done to me specifically by Jewish people that so happened to be businessmen or businesswomen.”

“I’m not afraid of that title, even though I know you guys are going to call this [anti-Semitic],” he said. I’m going to delve deeper into that title now.

Prominent brands including Adidas, Gap, Creative Artists Agency, and Balenciaga had already severed their connections with Ye, or were in the process of doing so, at the time the interview was conducted. Regarding the last designation, he described their split as “one of the most liberating days” of his life.

In 2023, Ye found himself under fire once more for his song “VULTURES,” in which he sang things such, “How am I anti-Semitic? I just blew it off a Jewish b**ch. He responded to “KING” with VULTURES 1, which made its debut many months later, saying, “‘Crazy, bipolar, anti-Semite’ / And I’m still the king.”

Ye continued his conversation with Owens by discussing what he called the “Black Holocaust” and making a connection between it and the rates of abortion and birth among African Americans. “Six million Jewish people died in the Holocaust,” he said. There have been almost 20 million abortions of Black and darker Jews.

They will not permit me to discuss the abortion rate with them if I [try] to talk to them about it. I remarked, “Hey, I’m me-tooing the Jewish race,” for this reason. Ye went on.